From Barrett Watten's section in Grand Piano 4: "I associate the act of writing with the sound of doves in the neighborhood, at about eleven o'clock in the morning under a high fog, or late at night. The mournful sound of the dove indicates that writing is a matter of long duration that it will take a long time before we get anywhere with it." p. 64-65.

Also Kit Robinson on Oakland Mail Center. Rae Armantrout on writing in Rubio's. Ted Pearson on typing the "day's words" on index cards and taping them to the front of bus as he does his shift. Lyn Hejinian on the news, or what else was going on.